NSA Device to identify SA deployed in some areas

Yes, but my point is my NSA only device can receive the MIB from SA network and if it has pdcch-ConfigSIB1 other than 255, then I can identify the network is SA?

Actually even NSA MIB has pdcch-ConfigSIB1 valid value.

there is no rule for this.
Pdcch-configsib1 is hardly 255 in NSA.
Idea is that even pdcch-configSIB1 is broadcaste din 5G MIB it is not used by UE.
But it is not 255.

I have a question within these lines.
Is it possible to check in UE cap whether device itself is SA only or NSA only?

Easiest way to check Device capability will be directly from the Chipset specs.

What about Kssb?
I think a value 31 in FR1 can tell the UE to not look for SIB1?

Yeah, that’s one way.
But is there no way to confirm through UE cap if we don’t have that info?

Normally I check UE capability SupportedBandCombos, ENDC will have eutra and nr while SA will have NR only.
Might not help in long run though :sweat_smile:

Check the select network capabilities.
It should allow you to select NR only for SA models.

This may not work with devices which support both SA & NSA like Samsung Galaxy S20+.

Then it will have a combo of both NSA (eutra+nr) combo and SA (nr only) combos.

Ok, but one doubt, whether UE capability information will sent only what is requested in UE cap enquiry?

In the phone menu.
SA phones should allow you to select 5G only mode.

Very true.

Yes that’s correct.
I am asking about the generic behavior of UE capability information.
Will UE respond only to the specific queries in UE capability request?
Say, if UE is in SA it will request for NR capability and not nr-eutra capability.
So will the UE reply in UE cap info about NR only or will it include nr-eutra capability also if it supports both SA & NSA?

But let’s say I request UE cap in NSA device with NR RAT.
It would still give me NR bands.
But still might not support SA, right?

There is feature activation flag in vendor where we can set ue capability info nr, nr + eutra or eutra only.
This will reduce UE capability payload.

If the UE is locked in 5G SA mode only when requiring UE capabilities it does it only for NR bands.

Actually I wanted to understand it from an NSA UE point.
If an NSA UE is enquiring about NR bands, it will respond, even if it is NSA only.
So how do we make out if a device is NSA only or it supports SA also?

NSA enquries are about NSA capabilities.
You cannot judge whether UE supports SA from UE capabilities in NSA.